When Christopher Columbus landed on the other side of the Atlantic, in 1492, he encountered a culture of the native population which the West would soon utterly destroy. We came to believe those populations were beneath us, and so we were doing them a favour by Westernising their lands and wiping them out. The Tainos (The natives) were not at all barbaric, or backward, or primitive, as the Europeans first thought. They invented the Canoe, the hammock, their homes were far more spacious and luxurious than the tiny European homes back home. In fact, it could be argued, that given the horrendous religious turmoil that embodied Europe over the next century; the Tainos were far more advanced socially. Columbus commented “They are very gentle and without knowledge of what is evil; nor do they murder or steal”. And yet, we still felt the need to impose our will on those people. It then follows quite neatly, that the lands Columbus is famed for discovering (Latin America) would, in less than five hundred years, be the victim of quite horrific oppression from the Nation that celebrates Columbus day; The USA.
The word “Democracy” is quite a contentious one, when used in the Western sense. It is a by-word for Capitalism.
America was a blank slate in 1776. Direct, deliberative democracy could have been imposed, in a true people’s revolution. But, the “Revolutionaries” weren’t as revolutionary as one might first believe. Much like the Monarchy they wished to free themselves from, the revolutionaries still believed that only a specific class of person was capable of governing. They didn’t believe the general public should have much say in this new “democracy“. It explains the electoral college system. Alexander Hamilton declared the people were a “great beast” desperate to be tamed. One gets the sense that they believed those who were not of the propertied class did not have a right to have a complete say over the way their lives were ruled. James Madison goes one step further and says of Democracy, if elections were “open to all classes of people, the property of landed proprietors would be insecure” echoing the beliefs of Cicero, and Cassius, in the old Roman Republic. It is arguably, why Julius Caesar was murdered…… for giving the people more of a democratic say. Therefore, the object of democracy over the past two thousand years, has been to give added protection to the wealthy few. The protect the minority, from the majority, and therefore has created a system where the minority, control the World.
It then becomes obvious, that when George Bush managed to steal the 2000 election, winning less votes than Al Gore, but winning more of the “elite” vote, the public just didn’t care. They didn’t rebel. They didn’t question the legitimacy of their “democracy“. Of course not. And the reason they didn’t care, was because the public are fully aware that an election in the U.S.A, or England, is simply voting in a different business man.
Over here in England, the 2010 election will be run on “spending cuts“. Cuts to public spending. Cuts, quite drastically, that do not need to happen so sharply. The question of curbing business excesses, or fairer trade agreements, or closing tax loopholes for the rich will not come up, purely because those important issues negatively affect the politicians, who happen to be of that particular elite class. And so spending cuts that negatively affect the poor, is going to be the main topic of discussion, because the poor do not have any say whatsoever in the way the Country is run, they have no power, so they can be manipulated.
The Ancient Greeks noted that true democracy was a Welfare State, using public funds to ensure the basic necessities to life for every citizen, not just the elite few. Modern Democracy is far different because it assumes that if the poor start gaining wealth through a better education system, or a stronger Welfare state that allows them the chance to advance, that the poor will start to influence democracy to suit their own needs, which in turn threatens the elites, which is exactly what Madison feared when he said “the property of landed proprietors would be insecure” if the poorer classes had more of a say.
It is in this line of thought, that allows modern politicians (particularly Conservatives and Republicans) to argue for “less government“. This is me, is quite the paradox. By handing power over, from the State, from elected officials accountable to the public, into the hands of the Private market, they are by definition eroding democracy. These private powers then suddenly have the wealth and the power to influence public policy, which in itself, is not democratic, because….. and this wont shock you……. that public policy has become more and more geared toward the interests of big business.
And then when they seem to have control over our Governments, they spread, across the World, whilst the government call it “spreading freedom and democracy“. Yet, in places like Brazil, in 1964, America didn’t seem to have a problem supplying funds and training, in helping to actually overthrow the democratically elected President Goulart (who was supremely popular with the public), helping to install a new right winged regime that quickly put an end to Democracy, wiped out thousands of people, including singers, painters and anyone who showed any form of left wing mindset. The same pattern of overthrowing democratic regimes and placing harsh, violent, corrupt,yet pro-American dictators in place can be seen across the history of the 20th Century. Nicaragua, Iran, Guatemala and Chile to name a few. Reagan, within eight years, didn’t seem to bothered about the Right Winged bloodbath taking place in Central America. In fact, he was shipping millions of dollars in military aid to the offending governments. 20,000 dead (according to Amnesty Int.) in Nicaragua alone.
UN-sponsored Commission for Historical Clarification, “the American training of the officer corps in counter-insurgency techniques was a key factor in the genocide…Entire Mayan villages were attacked and burned and their inhabitants were slaughtered in an effort to deny the guerillas protection.” Similarly, Reagan provided funds and training to Right winged terrorists in Colombia, which in turn gave Colombia the worst human rights record in the region. And yet, far from being labelled a war criminal, Reagan is hailed as a Conservative hero. By funding the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, he apparently created “freedom“. That “freedom” is a little wishful, given that whilst the U.S supported the right winged government of Somoza in Nicaragua, the Country had a two thirds malnutrition rate for children under five, whilst nine out of ten homes had unsafe drinking water, with the UN estimating that 60% of the population, under right winged rule, lived in dire poverty. If anything, it proves to me, that Reagan, and in fact, every President in the history of America has never been concerned with human rights, or horrendous suffering, and been more concerned with it’s own economic superiority. When you have to kill, and create an environment where genocide is taking place, one cannot seriously claim to have created “freedom” or “democracy“.
At the same time as evil dictators were being placed in charge of Latin American Countries by America; Britain’s equally as shameful Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher said “We support the United States’ aim to promote peaceful change, democracy and economic development”. One wonders what that “economic development” actually entailed given that after Reagan interfered with Guatemala, (according to the Inter-American development bank) by 1990 the per-capita income had fallen to below it’s 1971 levels. Is that economic development? No. Reagan should have spent his final years in prison.
Whilst James Madison quite openly admitted he didn’t want the poorer population to have much of a say in the democratic process; Ronald Reagan simply helped to destroy any poor people who might want a say in the democratic process. By freeing up the Country to the elites, he then labeled it “freedom” and “democracy“. It’s a strange old, American-owned World. From Columbus, to Obama, nothing much has changed. Democracy has not, and will never exist, without the public turning it’s attention away from it’s ridiculous obsession with consumerism, and onto what actually matters; the unjustifiable nature, of who controls the World.
November 30, 2009 at 11:53 am
Thanx for the post! I fully agree with you on most parts. US, like any other country, can only function insofar as it looks after its own interests by any means. I think that what your post shows is the incredible damaging effect nation states have.
But I think there is no need to blame this on governments, and drawing a connection between smaller government, conservative politics and the post-imperialist strategies of industrialized countries. Both the left and the right have the same foreign policy agenda in most industrialized countries that I know of. But you kind of state that in your “From columbus, to Obama, nothing much has changed.”
November 30, 2009 at 12:26 pm
That very much depends on what you’d call “Left”. I’d call Obama a Centrist. The left hasn’t existed for years.
November 30, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I agree. But still, I’d call the social democratic parties in Scandinavia pretty left. But they also don’t manage to do anything except put a more humane face on capitalist exploitation.
You’r post was about exploitation of third world countries, and the undemocratic nature of democracies. But even with more leftist governments there would be no difference here, only some miniscule difference within a country. But as you know, the lefts achievements always gets undermined by the right, as the left has no ways of consolidating its gains.
November 30, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Are you for real? You are one of those people who’s ever belief is the exact opposite of the truth.
To properly debunk all this nonsense would simply take too long so I am going to focus my attention on your little passage about the Acient Greeks since Classics is my speciality.
Taking the most well known and completely democratic Greek state, Athens, we can see all the obvious pitfallls. It was horribly unstable and fell periodically into Tryanny under the likes of Pisistratus. The only way to maintain their welfare state was by extorting money from their ”allies” in the Delian League, using the navy that those same ”allies” paid for.
The reason the property of the rich is not secure is because in a democracy the voters can simply vote themselves other peoples property. The Athenian statesman Eratosthenes pointed this out when he said ”Democracy is not a stable form of government, it lasts only as long as takes the voters to realise they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury”
The only reason the rich in Athens tolerated this democracy was because they did not have to fund the welfare state directly, it was funded by looting other Greek poleis.
Who are we going to loot to fund our welfare state? Who is going to have the fruits of their honest labour taken from them at gunpoint and distributed to unrelated others as a governmental bribe for more votes?
November 30, 2009 at 4:44 pm
futiledemocracy, property rights is actually the way for those who don’t advocate the use of force against some to part them from their assets and fruits of their labour, which is a moral issue, not really an economic issue.
But from an economic point of view, the record of history of things are clear – the only instances in history when the masses escaped grinding poverty are in societies that are capitalist and have relatively free trade, while they’re worse off in societies that depart from that.
Welfare is legalized extortion and theft and the systematic extortion of the fruits of one’s labour on the course of that person’s life is called slavery.
Sure, blaming the US for everything is the status quo for most socialists, but the USA isn’t a capitalist nation since decades ago. Corporatism doesn’t equal capitalism and this shows the lack of understanding of economic systems that you show.
November 30, 2009 at 7:14 pm
What is the difference between corporatism and capitalism?
December 1, 2009 at 1:19 am
“Taking the most well known and completely democratic Greek state, Athens”
- Well, if you consider only allowing men of a certain age, from “Athenian blood” who had completed military training to be “completely democratic”, then yes, you’d be right.
Please, if you want to debunk everything i’ve written, go ahead, i’m willing to listen…. I can’t WAIT to hear you attempt to justify putting Pinochet in charge of Chile, and just ignoring his murderous rampages, whilst at the same time, condemning Castro as a monster…. go for it……
rebelliousvanilla, as you’d know if you read another of my blogs, i’m fully aware that Capitalism in it’s truest sense, has never been tried. Although, the freest systems in the World, with very little government interference, are not exactly doing brilliantly. There is also no evidence that capitalism = an end to poverty. Of course living standards have improved over the past century, under “capitalism”. In the same way that a slave in the 19th century, lived a healthier life than those in the 18th century. That’s not an excuse.
Now, when government has very little to do with Corporate interests (as in Kerala, in India) bad things happen. Coca Cola, in Kerala have been systematically abusing the water supply in the region for years, leaving it polluted, and causing harm and even death to children who use the area. The water supply, which fed the village, Coca Cola dried up, and then charged the villagers money for the bare minimum amount of water to sustain life. Apparently, under your ideal of Capitalism, that sort of thing is perfectly acceptable. To those of us who have a conscience, it isn’t. And obviously, you’ll find a way to blame the government, rather than the greedy pricks who knew what they were doing.
Welfare is only theft, if you accept that Capitalism is the only legitimate form of economics. I don’t accept that.
Capitalism, like Communism, has never existed. Corporatism simply makes sure those who struggle are kept alive, whilst making sure those at the top continue to benefit. Infact, America has always been pretty protectionist. If that wasn’t the case, the American high tech industry would have failed YEARS ago, thanks to Japan.
December 1, 2009 at 5:07 pm
”Well, if you consider only allowing men of a certain age, from “Athenian blood” who had completed military training to be “completely democratic”, then yes, you’d be right”
See, you can try to be clever but of course you avoided anwering any of what I wrote.
Athens had no fixed body of law that was not subject to the decree of the demos, which is an absolute democracy.
December 1, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Alternatively, you could name a Greek state that allowed women, foreigners, or children to vote and I will concede the point that Athens is not the most completely democratic Greek state that existed.
Can you even name another Greek democracy?
December 1, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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You’ve lost me now, i’m afraid. Why are you asking me to name Greek democracies? I’m in the Chomsky faction, who clearly see that true democracy has never been achieved. You referred to Athens as “completely democratic”, by definition, it wasn’t.
The Welfare State doesn’t just benefit the poor. In fact, benefit pay outs to the poor represent a tiny slice of the Welfare pie. MUCH more money goes into (and the majority wasted) the Pentagon’s research budget, which then finds funds ending up in the hands of private companies. They’re supported by the Government. Corporations, rely on government interference when it suits them – copyright for example.
As for Welfare of the population; in the 1980s, global hunger decreased – except for Sub Saharan Africa, and The United States. Now, this is a time remember when you had a Neoliberalist President (well, as neoliberalist as a President can be, whilst he rampaged his way across Central America, using public funds), and suddenly hunger in the USA increased. Why is that? Lazy kids? When kids are hungry, malnourished, and in dire need of help, it has HUGE affects on their health, and on their minds. They aren’t like children from richer families, with prospects, and en-route ambitions, survival is their first instinct, and so if my money goes to create a safety net, to help such people, i’m more than happy for that to happen. I’d much rather that’s where a small portion of my income go, than keeping that little bit of extra money whilst I get a nice little tax break.
Boston is one of the richest cities in the World, with incredibly nicely run hospitals. But, it also has a general hospital, which in the 1980s set up a Malnutrition department. Now, if you’re incredibly moronic, you might say that during the 1980s, families; mums and dads, suddenly got a bit lazy and let their kids starve, or you could point to the obvious answer, that social policies designed to kill off welfare had a profound affect and created a rise in serious malnutrition cases, in one of the World’s richest cities.
Parents in the USA also spend 40% less time with their children now, than they did in the 1960s. Work times have increased thanks to successive Right Winged Governments (pro-family? Really?) who at the same time were taking apart the Welfare State, especially any form of child support system – and so hard pressed families had to work twice as hard, which means less time with their children, which also has profound affects on the children. The 1960s, when working weeks were 40% less than they are now, according to Fortune Magazine, was a time of record Corporate profits. Free Market rules, are not natural laws.
The New York Times chose to ignore Social policies contributing to the increased struggle in inner City America, instead choosing to blame “bad genes”. Pathetic.
The bulk of Welfare handouts, whether you choose to accept it or not, goes through the Pentagon, and into Private hands – technology research, and “defence” contracts. IBM profited hugely thanks to the Pentagon, and public funds. In fact, the Tourist industry, founded hugely on the fact that Boeing (the biggest exporter in the U.S) gained much of it’s market superiority, from technology developed through the Pentagon (public funds). Shouldn’t Boeing give something back? Shouldn’t the companies that benefited through the tourist industry, give something back? They didn’t do it alone, it wasn’t free market principles that lead to their Superiority, government handouts did.
December 1, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I actually said that Athens was the ”most well known and completely democratic Greek state”.
As in out of all the Greek states, it was the most completely democratic, which it was.
Then you started squealing about it not allowing women and foreigners to vote, as if that matters.
December 1, 2009 at 9:41 pm
futiledemocracy, I actually agree with you. The sole purpose of the state is protecting the rights of the individuals on it’s territory(and I mean, real rights, not the perverted usage of the word that flies around nowadays). For example, polluting the environment is actually a case for the government to get involved because it damages the property of others that aren’t compensated.
Holy shit, the Indian economy is free? What kind of bullshit is this? It’s the same claptrap that the 2008 financial meltdown happened because of greed, not moral hazards created by governmental guarantees, the Federal reserves rigging interest rates artificially and a plethora of other things. The US and Europe are probably the worst capitalists in the world, right now. Spending borrowed money on imported goods isn’t capitalism, just like our tax codes aren’t capitalist.
Singapore is a great example of capitalism in action. 40 years ago it was a swamp, now it’s the richest country in the world(highest reserves per capita), it has surpluses, it’s a creditor nation, it has the best healthcare and educational systems in the world.
backtomarx, here:
Corporatism is a system of economic, political, and social organization where corporate groups such as business, ethnic, farmer, labour, military, patronage, or religious groups are joined together into a single governing body in which the different groups are mandated to negotiate with each other to establish policies in the interest of the multiple groups within the body. Corporatism views society as being alike to an organic body in which each corporate group is viewed as a necessary organ for society to function properly. Corporatism is based on the sociological concept of functionalism. Countries that have corporatist systems typically utilize strong state intervention to direct corporatist policies and to prevent conflict between the groups.
An example of a corporatist system is the healthcare system in the US. I dislike it and it’s just a tiny bit better than the garbage that Obama proposed. It desperately needs reform, but sadly Obama’s platform of change is more of the same thing. Another example, is the bailout. The legislation wasn’t even drafted by Congress and they didn’t even read it. Corporatism, just like socialism is a system in which resources are biased towards those with the biggest political clout.
Capitalism is a system in which the means of production are privately owned, the government doesn’t interfere with their allocation and are traded in markets. The capital is accumulated which provides higher productivity for workers and hence higher wages. The working class should actually love capitalism, just like the rich people would love corporatism and bureaucrats socialism.
And in the 1960s taxes were A LOT smaller. I actually wrote about this. Obviously if families kept more of their income, they had to work less and spend more time together. Also, in the 1960s, the US didn’t have a tax code that created capital flight to other regions of the world or tons of regulation that destroyed the comparative advantage the US had.
December 2, 2009 at 11:48 am
Singapore is a great example of capitalism in action. 40 years ago it was a swamp, now it’s the richest country in the world(highest reserves per capita), it has surpluses, it’s a creditor nation, it has the best healthcare and educational systems in the world.
What? Singapore is what you would define as corporatism. The Ethnic Chinese population has all the state power, and they have most of the accumulated wealth of the nation. Sure, it may have among the best health and educational systems, so does Scandinavian countries, but it is still a theocracy dictatorship, much like China. In fact, the Chinese are modeling their country after Singapore. How can Capitalism in action function under a heavy dictatorship? I thought Capitalism, in its true form, can only function under a democracy.
And when it comes to health and education, in any undemocratic country, I would not believe the figures the country operate with. Remember, almost all surveys are done by the state.