Everything said on this blog, is simply a reflection of what is happening in my mind at the time. It is all opinion, and mostly rather heatedly put together. I often hear “none of this is original!” with regard the content of what I write. And it’s true. The aim isn’t to be original, the aim isn’t to be academically brilliant. These aren’t thesis. They are simply my thoughts, on a page. They may have been said a thousand times by a thousand different people. So please, just read it as my thoughts, on a page, rather than expecting anything spectacular or original.
Futile Democracy
Political and Philosophical ramblings of a 20 something English leftie.
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nicely put! great blog you have here!
Nice blog – great to see someone so young that is actively questioning the world around him. I linked to your blog on mine. Thanks again.
Thanks for stopping by Simply Ecclesia. I responded to your comment with “How Come.” Now that I have visited your site I see how come.
To borrow from the great philosopher Forrest Gump, “Christians are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get.”
What I mean is that though there are Christians who will thump you with their Bible and condemn you, I try not to be this way. I try and respect everyone’s opinion though I may not agree with them. I wouldn’t say you have a flawed view. I would say it is your unique view. It’s good that you have taken the time to reflect on this life and not just follow the masses like a bunch of blind sheep.
Somewhere in all this I am sure there was a complement
Talking of Agnostic (tenuous link), I overheard someone in the office talking about Humanism last week, and they thought it was ‘something to do with aliens’.
Excellent blog. I love reading intelligent content from across the pond. Its a nice break from the crap over here.
Great photographs, btw.
you didn’t like my posting 12 items Obama failed to, yet failed to mention that you admit being
“Staunch Liberal, leaning toward Socialism”
You didn’t answer my reply. Rather than just being part of the “Bush Derangement Syndrome”, I asked you to focus on what I was – not anyting else but trying to find a legitimate way out of this; placing blame is a game. Contributing constructively is what we need!
You are approximately like me in your ideas, only approximately 1/3 my age. I find this a hopeful sign.
Now if we could only get more like you in the States!
Hey Jamie,
You call your self liberal with your thoughts, well liberals don’t support racism.
The subject was not about religions (its politics), so we’re talking about human beings of different nationalities; and one’s logic is reflected by his origins and liberal beliefs,
“Yeah because the Muslims, with their suicide bombers”
It would be difference of you have noticed both parties use of weapons. But
you chose to see suicide bombers, while you closed an eye on Israel’s (as a form) with American supported forbidden weapons, gas, bullets, plus bombs, machine guns, and tanks etc. used against majority of unarmed and helpless civilians.
How about if the British government decided to solve Israel delema and invite them to the British land and grants them freedom to kill and take by force your homes. how would the British nation feel.
Relief yourself with the answer to Liberalism.
Both sides are as bad as each other. I have very little respect for the Israeli’s use of excessive force and what looks to be nothing short of genocide.
Similarly, I have no respect for a Gazan Leader who’s doctrine calls for Islam to “obliterate Israel”. Why is it considered ok for Palestinians to kill and slaughter the innocent people of Israel, yet when they do it to you, you claim ignorance and innocence.
You’re all people before you’re any religion.
“How about if the British government decided to solve Israel delema and invite them to the British land and grants”
We do. We aren’t a ignorant nation based on the idea that if you’re not the same religion as us, you’re not welcome. We’re multicultural. We have Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Hindus. And we live together in peace. You people seem to hate each other, purely because your religious beliefs don’t agree.
The reason i’m liberal, is I blame both of you. You Muslims aren’t innocent. Similarly, Israel is certainly not innocent.
But please, for my full views read my blog about this:
http://futiledemocracy.com/2009/01/22/israel-palestine-and-the-religious-problem/
Great blog!
Thanks for the comments too. It’s great to see others with similar opinions. Always healthy to debate any which are different though too, though a lot more fun, encouraging and satisfactory to find those with ‘good views’.
Keep them coming!
Little Titch,
http://www.asifforlife.wordpress.com
I agree on some points and not on others. That is as it should be. Thanks for visiting my site and come back. Agree or not feel free to comment.
Thanks,
Bob A.
Many thanks for your sprinkling of comments on my blog. Your blog looks great: serious issues and evereefin! Good to see what a propa blog is supposed to look like anyway.
Like the blog. Our politics may not agree all of the time but debate is always good. I’ve add you to my blogroll.
Like the photography by the way. Keep it up!
Thanks for stopping by “I’m the Other Criminal.” You used one of my favorite words: lugubrious. But trust me, it’s not lugubrious
Sex in a committed marriage makes that outside look like a shadow.
Here is an answer to your confusion: Jesus came to shake things up, and he hasn’t stopped. Any honest historian will agree that he’s the single most influential social movement leader in history. But beyond that, He said He was God and he came here so freaks like you and me can get what we don’t deserve: life. And I’m not talking about the garbage being sold on television. Real life. He offers it to you every morning, Futile.
And though the human mind may be the most powerful tool in the universe, it has a heck of a time when faced with a hurricane or an earthquake. Whose mind can tell an earthquake to stop or a gale to cease? All the best to you.
Heya! Cheers for popping in to my blog! To be honest, as nice as your visit was I now wish you hadn’t! Your blog puts mine to shame!
But no worries, I will simply strive to write something as interesting and gripping as your blog!
I have to say I am impressed with your apparent understanding of politics, I like to think I know something – who doesn’t – but truth is I’m lost. It all goes straight over my head…but your blogs don’t! Cheers for that, now I can sound all clever and that!
No blog is better nor worse than the other. They are our opinions and the value is the same, even though we may differ in our views.
Bob A.
Still, mine is the best.
I won’t post a comment to debunk you. We all post our opinions.
Mine may not be the best, but they are what I believe. So be it.
Bob A.
Excellent blog. Do you mind me adding you to my blog roll?
Far left liberal twits like you bore the hell out of me.
In time, i’ll learn to cope with your disapproval.
Ok, don’t be a hit and run. I pulled your comment out of the spam guard and posted it and answered it.
You didn’t answer it. You just started up a completely different debate.
Really now, condescending is it. Just what have you accomplished in your short life? Saved someone’s life? Earned your way through college, no not on someone else’s quid, did you pay for it on your own? Did you even go to or finish school?
Do you have your own flat and job paying the rent each month?
Done service for your country, fought in a war? served as a medic on the field of battle?
Or are you going to sit there and whine as your country is taken over by some Wiley Old Gentlemen that cares not about the laws of your land. Already they’re telling you how they will live in your country and soon, how YOU will live in your country.
If you think that bow was respect, where was the bow and curtsy for your Queen? Wake up! At that level of diplomacy, EVERYTHING is measured, including if your tie is crooked. Obama is culturally stunted. He diminishes himself.
I didn’t tell you what you should do, I asked what you have done? Kind of touchy about that, no?
Who said Conservatives in America are rich? Not by any means, although we can become wealthy by work and not sitting around waiting for the government to give us the chance. Do that and I’d die poor.
Governments (all of them) are Robbing Hoods, who take from the rich and give some to the poor, but keep most of it for themselves.
I don’t think you should go back to the “good old ’80′s”, not at all, how about 1939 and maybe you can have peace in your time. That Neville Chamberlain was such a wonderful diplomat; he certainly pulled a fast one on Hitler.
Maybe the goosesteppers this time will get the guts to cross the channel; learning a new language is always so exciting.
Of course, you are aware of what is going on in Austria, Southern Germany and right there in the UK. They’re very much into Socialism in all its manifestations. They’re just not into your version of it, that’s all.
I have no idea where you get the numbers for uninsured except from the media. They’re as much to be trusted as the Beeb. Most of the so called uninsured are teens and young twenty-somethings who choose not to pay the premiums.
Anyone that goes to a hospital here gets treated. If you cannot pay for it, the cost is put on to someone else’s insurance. That included the illegals; we should be billing their country for that cost.
My girlfriend’s brother lives in London, works as a lawyer in Europe, but any time he needs medical work he goes to India or comes back here.
Canadians come across the border to escape the wonderful NHS they have up there.Quirky thing isn’t it?
No, the Republicans that lost in 08 were what we call RINO’s (Republicans In Name Only). A few more will lose in primary elections to fiscal conservatives who may or may not be Republicans.
How often do you listen to Limbaugh? Or is the patter about him just tossed off talking points from some screed. Hmmmm?
So what about Obama’s mauling the Queen? Is she some crone living in some oversize stone cottage? Where’s the respect?
I’m going to post all this on another site called the New England Republican. You are well written, use no scrofulous language which we don’t allow on our sites and avoid ad hominem attack. I like that. The others posters will also.
The persons commenting there are from London and the US and are of all political stripes.
Thank you for the comment on my blog. I decided to read your blog as well. I came, I saw, I liked. I will be stopping by again.
Here’s a link for your 40% of Americans are uninsured and from where it comes.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/04/msm-complicit-in-full-court-pr-push-for.html
After reading that last screed on freedom, you also might wish to research the crime rate in the UK and OZ since the gun bans committed with guns, knives and assorted other implements.
Strange society you have that locks up victims for defending themselves, while letting the perps testify against them.
Remember this, When every second counts, the police are only minutes away!
Thanks for your comment on my “Teabagging John Adams” post. Glad to have found another funny liberal blog written by a questioning mind. And British! Now I can read your blog with an accent in my head, which makes it even better. Shameless plug? You might enjoy this older post of mine, written as I came into the light after my (mercifully brief!) conservative-ish phase. Thanks again for the read.
http://misedjj.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/a-suggestion-from-the-liberal-lion/
Are you a Foxes supporter, eh?
I am indeed!!
I;m glad I found this place. I’ll need to poke around a bit more, but I sense another addition to my blogroll coming
You left a post at my blog on the torture issue. I did approve your comment but for some reason it is not appearing, honestly. Your comment actually puzzles me. I mean that, not in a sarcastic way, but seriously. You dont’ need to know what the meaning of torture is? If you are held down in water its clear you are tortured? In one breath you are talking about prosecuting people based upon the rule of law, and then you are saying you don’t have to know whether they actually violated the law because “we all know what torture is.” Actually the law, and someone’s future or freedom, doesn’t thankfully rely on such vague things as what YOU think torture is. So while you are so concerned about protecting legal rights of people, why don’t you apply this concern across the board, and have some intellectual consistency.
I will try and get your comment to appear. It has done that with several comments, both positive and negative. I have had about 8 and approved them all and I think 2 are appearing. Thanks for the comment.
sparkyholden
Woah woah woah, I didn’t even mention prosecutions. I was speaking in a morality sense. Whether the law defines waterboarding as torture or not is irrelevant to me. I’m sure if you saw me doing that to a child, you’d think it was wrong, right?
Good blog! I see that the hate between left and right does not end with the US…..let me know if you would like to exchange links…..peace out
stumbled across this blog by way of…well, i’m not quite sure. interesting opinions, though biased towards the left (something expected, since you do honestly describe yourself as left leaning). was wondering if you’d read the book ‘what’s left’ by nick cohen. it’s a fantastic, illuminating read, and may find a way in to your quotes section.
Oops! Pretty Hot Blog
Interesting!
I stumbled across your blog after you left a comment on mine. I must say this is a pretty interesting collaboration of your thoughts and ideas. Will for sure come back!
I’ve read your blog and think you might be interested in applying for the European Young Journalist Award 2009. The competition is being run by the European Commission Directorate-General for Enlargement and I would really encourage you to submit.
The main objective of the EYJA is to encourage young people to discuss and express their thoughts about Europe, whilst giving aspiring young writers to really further their career.
To submit your article the easiest way is to send it directly to me with your contact details (name, email, phone address). Or you can apply online – simply clicking on the link here to participate!
Here is a quick overview of the rules:
• You must be aged 17-35
• Your article must refer to the European Union or EU enlargement. Articles published in the past two years are accepted…such as your blog! The deadline is 31 May. There will be a national winner from 35 countries (EU and non-EU). All winners will have a free weekend in Berlin at the end of the summer!
You can find our more information via the competition website http://www.EUjournalist-award.eu.
It would be great if you would participate and if you have any questions please ask.
Best of luck!
David (d.french@media-consulta.com
Thank you for your informative blog. It will be interesting to watch your progress, although I am an over-50, protestant, American, Republican!
Re: God
God is provable – but it does depend on your definition of God.
I bet you come from lots and lots of money.
Thanks for visiting my ‘rant’ site. I’m sorry you don’t like the NuLabour banner – must confess, I stole it, because I do like it.
‘Extreme right’? Blimey, I think I’m a moderate!
Прикольно!:) Но есть и минус небольшой! У меня скорость интернета 112 кбит/сек. Пага грузилась около 30 секунд.
Народ в таких случаях говорит – Авось да как-нибудь до добра не доведут.
Well put. I think we are going to get along JUST fine!
I’m glad you took my “Will of the People” post from the point of view of health care even though that is not what the post was about. I really don’t like the Tea Party myself, but like every political ideology there are the extreme fringes that we just have to deal with.
As a self descirbed socialist you must have a favorable opinion of unions. You should read my earlier post about that and give me your thoughts. America doesn’t need another Reagan (besides I don’t even think if Reagan ran today he would get the nomination).
It’s one thing being poor and doing you best to make something of yourself but to be poor and not try to better your life and wait for handouts from the government that is a different matter. Most people would ignore you but I hope we can have a good conversation in the future. The world is so full of screaming jackasses on both sides that it is time for level-headed conversation especially one who is argumentative such as yourself.
I’m glad you took this post from the point of view of health care even though that is not what the post was about. I really don’t like the Tea Party myself, but like every political ideology there are the extreme fringes that we just have to deal with.
As a self descirbed socialist you must have a favorable opinion of unions. You should read my earlier post about that and give me your thoughts. America doesn’t need another Reagan (besides I don’t even think if Reagan ran today he would get the nomination).
It’s one thing being poor and doing you best to make something of yourself but to be poor and not try to better your life and wait for handouts from the government that is a different matter. Most people would ignore you but I hope we can have a good conversation in the future. The world is so full of screaming jackasses on both sides that it is time for level-headed conversation especially one who is argumentative such as yourself.
Augustus
Hi. Return visit from The Crosshead just to see what’s going on. Refreshing change from wading through the Mail and Express and the scary people who add their comments. You get your share of nutters, though.
Great stuff, mon!
We added you to our blog roll and if you have any antifa news from the UK you would like to share with us we would be happy to repost it and link to you.
Peace!
The Lady Liberty’s Lamp Collective
Lots of interesting stuff to read here, should keep me busy for a while. Then, hopefully, I’ll reply with something of more substance. In the meantime – peace.
A really interesting blog by someone that condones violence on someone he has not met and who has said that a person with opposite views to himself needs and deserves a good kicking, what a great site.
Thanks mate!
A first rate, erudite and thoughtful blog – glad I found it
I’m proud to be your Aussie xx
“A first rate, erudite and thoughtful blog-glad I found it”
So am I, I have always enjoyed a good comedian…..
Good use of a comma! You’ll pick this English for 8 year old thing up in no time!
It’s OK for futiledemocracy to make personal attacks but when I reply your girlfriend gets upset, how strange you people are.
Pointing out my incorrect use of punctuation is rather sad and pathetic, please keep it up it just shows what a petty individual you are…..
I have apologised to your girlfriend for getting personal but I shall not make that same apology to you futiledemocracy….
I blame those damn muslims.
You are to ignorant to be anything but a left winger. At 24 you know nothing. Like all you homosexual references when you try to get on my blog. Dude you have issues, you are just like a Muslim, born into stupidity in the U.K. you seriously need your butt kicked, you new best friend, J.C.
I also spelled to rather than to so you would have something anally retentive to respond to. If you had balls the size of snow peas you would have comments available on your pathetic site so people could leave comments. Cheers, your new best friend.
Wow, you called me ignorant and then said i’m “like a muslim”. Typical American.
=/ Comments are available on my “pathetic site”. You’d know this, because you left some, you moron.
*concerned
Thanks for popping into my blog. Even though I am an American and not exactly sure where my political leanings lie, I’m sure that your blog will be an interesting read. I must not be typical American because I don’t think you’re an ignorant Muslim either…You may be young and a student (ahhh, those were the days) but you at least are willing to look at historical events from a different lens than what we usually see. As you know the saying, history is written by the winners…but it doesn’t always mean it’s the unvarnished truth…
Well, still around. Glad to see that. Are you going to be watching Obama get his butt handed to him in the 2010 midterms? He seriously misjudged the American voter on the Hopey Changey bit.
The health care will get repealed, if not right away, they’ll cut the funding for it and stop the insurance swap-over.
Come back again.
Yes
Purely because America will get what it deserves. Gun totin’, Christ obsessed, selfish, anti-healthcare yet pro-Reagan spending as much as possible funding Latin American terrorists, cretins.
The rest of the World wouldn’t give you Right Winged Americans a pair of scissors through fear that you’d kill an Arab somewhere, let alone give you such power, after the past eight years of fuck ups (which the right wing of America tends to like to pretend never happened)
Obama is weak. If I were him, i’d have told all of you who tend to like to masturbate furiously over Glenn Beck and refer to Obama as everything from a fascist to a communist muslim racist terrorist sympatheriser, to go fuck your pathetic little selves. He hasn’t. He’s given in to you far too much. For that, he will get what he deserves.
you have an amazing blog. i always enjoy seeing what new stuff you have a put up. thank you, Alec
love from australia!
I suppose describing yourself as an anarcho-syndicalist means you wouldn’t be supporting Labour then? A genuine question BTW.
I think i’d rather eat my own vomit than vote Labour/Tory/Lib Dem
That’s pretty clear LOL.
Good blog, what I’d call “a thinking man’s blog”
keep it up!
Great blog. Don’t agree with your ideas but like your style.
You’re still in your 20′s? I up my praise of your blog from “excellent” to Brilliant. I hope you tried for that award, and any others that came up. This is the best accidentally found blog I’ve seen in years.
I do like President O, tho. I’ll take bits&pieces of Chomsky and other far-left ideologies, but I’m getting too old for fist waving, rabble rousing and experimental communes. I’ll finish a fight if I have to, but starting them is a waste of time. Real life has beat the shit out of me enough times that there’s not much that impresses me more than free healthcare, and the right to eat and sleep in a safe place where I know I won’t get mauled or die of exposure. Yeah, I’m a boring centrist liberal. Free enterprise? Was there ever such a thing? Free speech? “Doomed to be…” Workers’ Utopia? I can only dream of that Star Trek/teacup world. Sad but true. Most people are only capable of working for the common good when they’ve had their greed&selfishness beaten out of them. Or when mass slaughter of their kin&countrymen by an outside invader is the consequence of not doing so. WWII was the last time such a large collaborative effort, for nothing beyond the love of our fellow human beings was possible in practice.
President O knows he can’t please everybody all the time. But he knows what every good liberal knows. It’s crucial to good governance to please as many of them as possible, and to convince the people who are capable of attempting to assassinate him that they’re *good people* too, and that they have things in common with the people who like him. Insincere? Who cares. The barest, most basic point of any presidency is to not die or start a civil war while one is in office
All joking aside, American gun culture, and its own unique history make for some very real and very ugly possibilities for the first black president. He’s a far braver person than I am to apply for the job at all. I think he’s doing a fine job.
Funny thing, tho. In this political climate, which has sadly creeped into a Canadian university system that all but worshipped Trudeau 40 years ago, I have to argue for my liberal views with such gusto that even philosophy profs with the background to know better mistake me for an anarchist. Me! A middle-aged single mom who went back to school as a mature student!
Keep up the activism. Just because I don’t believe a teacup world is possible right now, that doesn’t mean it should never be. I love The Guess Who’s vision as much as the next person
Thank you for your kind words!
I massively appreciate it.
It doesn’t seem to have saved.
Your comments showed up!
The one you posted a while back, I can’t find
That’s ok. Don’t worry about the comment. I was tired and probably not making as much sense as I wanted to anyway. I’ll rewrite it some other time
I pitty the fool!
You state you are a Darwinian, I wonder if you uphold Darwin’s ideology of Natural Selection.
In his book On the Origin of Species Darwin states “If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find out no such case.”
Darwin made that statement many years ago, and since science constantly adapts and corrects itself over the course of time, we have found the antithesis of natural selection in Michael Behe’s Theory of Irreducible Complexity.
I suppose its possible that if you believe Darwin on Natural Selection, you might believe in the Big Bang Theory as well, The predominant flaw with the Big Bang Theory is that it essentially relies on the idea that something came out of absolutely nothing. If there is nothing, then something most certainly cannot be made from it — unless of course it is formed by something that is not bound to a physical dimension. Darwin did not create the big bang theory, but it is undeniable that he would have accepted it.
Ah Mr Behe. A man whose own department refutes absolutely all the nonsense he says.
Evolution is a fact. You can deny it, you can change the word “creationism” to “intelligent design” all you want. You can even claim you have scientists on your side (which you don’t. You have christians. Who publish ‘evidence’ which is then discredited in about ten minutes) But you cannot claim, without substantial evidence that evolution is not factual. It absolutely is. We have more evidence to support the theory of natural selection, than Christianity could ever hope to have (it’s current evidence stash adds up to 0). You are right to say that the theory behind evolution is ever changing. But the key basis has not changed since Darwin.
Behe is not credible. He claims an intelligent designer, but offers no evidence. He is basically a christian using scientific language. I have read two of his papers, and both are long winded rehash of Paley’s watchmaker.
All he does is give us thought experiments. He backs nothing up. He has no credible evidence or exclusive research. Practically the entire scientific community refutes everything he says. And yet you’re clinging onto his bullshit, whilst claiming Darwin; a man who has about 200 years of evolutionary theory, genetic theory, the entire studies of biology and zoology and medicine behind him…. is wrong? SERIOUSLY?
The ‘something from nothing’ thing, well, Stephen Hawking addresses that perfectly here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQhd05ZVYWg
I really wish the religious would stop trying to jump into the realm of science. They fail miserably every time. Any hole in scientific understanding, the fill with “God”. He isn’t there. He never was.
You are a dangerous idiot. Not because you have the ability to enrich any of us with truth and wisdom; but merely because you can use your ability to “Google & confirm” your preconceived notions to compose a convincing diatribe. Thank God those of us with life experience and understanding see how your BS is wrought with falsehoods, folly and nonsense. You sorely need a lesson in world history regarding socialist atheism and how this deadly combination has destroyed countless human lives. Good Lord, where do I begin? Or do I even waste my time on such an arrogant fool? I think I’ll leave it to God to teach you a painful, but valuable life lesson: He is there and always has been. Hopefully for you, the “worst event of your life,” causing you to fall to your knees (and we all have these moments given time), will happen before the damage you’ve done can still be undone.
How ironic it is to call me arrogant, and yet insist on punishment in an afterlife. Anyone who claims revealed truth of what happens when I die, is the most arrogant of all. When he or she combines it with the baseless diatribe of bullshit you’ve just spewed on my comments page, he becomes not only the most arrogant of them all, but also a prick. Congratulations, sweetheart.
I figure, if i’ve annoyed someone who calls themselves “TeaParty Adams”, and is a far right, Christian lunatic, who bases his entire life on bronze age fairy tales ……… then i’m most definitely doing something right.
You misunderstand. The lesson will come during your life, not afterwards. Interesting how you completely ignore my suggestion to educate yourself on the history of socialism … I’m more amused than annoyed.
I assure you, no matter how hard times get, I wont be praying to a violent, homophobic, racist, genocidal, dictatorial fairy man in the sky.
I would however, strongly suggest you educate yourself into the massive failings and violent oppression and silencing of any dissent caused by organised religion.
You asked me to educate myself on the history of Atheism too, and alluded to its violent nature. Please, enlighten me on how a lack of belief in a deity can in anyway be responsible for murder. Might you be referring to Soviet Russia or Pol Pot’s Cambodia? I hear those examples brought up constantly by the uneducated ‘MERICAN Right wing. It is of course, irrational. Firstly, because Stalin was Catholic. Raised to be a Catholic priest. He tried to wipe out the Orthodox Church not for the sake of Atheism, but because they threatened his total power. The Russian Orthodox Church was a political player that wasn’t on his side. So he tried to wipe them out. Much like he tried to wipe out those within his own party, who didn’t support him. This isn’t killing in the name of not believing (a ridiculous assertion in the first place). Stalin used the Church to his advantage. Curiously, he noticed the power that the head of the Church in Russia had, and he adapted it for himself. Stalin killed for political gain, not because he was an Atheist (he wasn’t). He didn’t just kill Christians, he also killed Communists (does this mean he killed for anti-communist purposes?) and he killed artists and poets (does this mean he killed because he was “Athiart/Athipoetry?”). Also, note that more open Churches sprang up during Stalin’s reign, than anytime before. To go from about 500 in Lenin’s reign, to about 22,000 by the time Stalin died, hardly suggests he was on a crusade to wipe out religion. He saw the power that the Church had forced upon Russian society; the reservoir of totalitarian principles (the Tzar considered the mediator between the people and God), and he ran with it. He abandoned reason, to promote a faith in himself. This isn’t Atheism. This isn’t secularism. This is totalitarianism and nothing else.
Also…. ‘crusade’…….
Pol Pot similarly did not kill for Atheism. He also tried to wipe out the scientifically gifted in all spheres of medicine, biology, physics, and all kinds of education rational thinkers. He was also not an Atheist. He believed that heaven was guiding him.
I don’t think you’re referring to Hitler (because that would be even more ridiculous, and easy to refute). But i’ll let you ‘educate’ me on how Atheism is responsible for ‘destroying countless human lives’. Because it seems to me that when you mix Christianity….. with, well, anything….. all you get is poison, death, and social regression.
If you’re suggesting that not believing in a Zombie man that sacrificed himself to save us from sins that he so tenderly bestowed upon us in the first place, leads to Stalin…….. holy shit you’re dumb. Your religion; your dirty, putrid, vicious religion is responsible more than any other doctrine on the planet, for substituting compassion and the sanctity of human life, to glorify a fairy tale.
Also, I know the history of Socialism. Unlike Atheism, you are right, countless lives have been lost as a result of a failed doctrine. Now, I simply reject the insane Glenn Beck inspired revisionist history of your sect of idiots, that places anyone slightly to the left of Mussolini as a socialist. I place myself as a social democrat more than anything else. I believe in universal healthcare, and a safety net for the less fortunate. I also believe in a market system, that has its excesses curbed. I look at what works and what doesn’t. Whether you like it or not, private healthcare fails miserably. Universal healthcare… works. Conversely, the markets work wonderfully when it comes to luxuries, and in fact, food. Again, I look at the results, at what works and what doesn’t.
You’re the one stuck in a cold war mentality, holding on to out dated dogmas, refusing to accept what works and what doesn’t.
Now, you go and pray, and i’ll do the thinking.
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